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recognizing there will be trouble attracting support for the bill, vice president joe biden returned to capitol hill again today to encourage house democrats to support the compromise he negotiated. after the meeting, the house democratic leaders pushed for up-and-down vote on the package noting it's after the fiscal cliff deadline. >> taxes will go up on everybody in america if we don't act. those who are relying on unemployment insurance, million reconciliation relying up on unemployment insurance to support themselves and their families. if we don't act, we will be at risk. >> the leader emphasizeed bipartisan support up until now. >> a bill passed in the united states senate 89-8. tell me when you have had that on a measure as controversial as this. >> house republicans pushed for quick package arguing it's too late for amendments. >> too late in the game. a point in the deal where it's done, and we keep trying to tinker with it to make it perfect. >> the leadership team were not going to be rushed. >> they had months to look at that. now they are expecting to us vote on somethin
recognizing there will be trouble attracting support for the bill, vice president joe biden returned to capitol hill again today to encourage house democrats to support the compromise he negotiated. after the meeting, the house democratic leaders pushed for up-and-down vote on the package noting it's after the fiscal cliff deadline. >> taxes will go up on everybody in america if we don't act. those who are relying on unemployment insurance, million reconciliation relying up on...
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maybe 7:30 where vice president biden will update the caucus on the state of the deal. senate democrats we're told have not signed off on the deal. after the caucus there is an expectation of votes around possibly 10:00 p.m. maybe later. as we get word about the senate action. and knowing about it. but it will be a while. 10:00 p.m. we're going to be back here at 8:00 p.m. you were saying about this deal, we rudely cut you off before. that the entitlement reform is not specific on the republican side. democratic side, frankly there is no spending cuts in this deal. no additional spending cuts. >> there this is the other part of this. obama doesn't -- obama believes in stimulating the economy through spending. he doesn't believe in making all the cuts. so again, like you are asking him to adopt a world view he doesn't have. >> bret: even though he talked about it many times. >> he does talk about it. >> expounding upon it. fixing social security and medicare. >> anybody who reads paul krugman, grand pubah of economics on the left his worry that the deficit will be reduce
maybe 7:30 where vice president biden will update the caucus on the state of the deal. senate democrats we're told have not signed off on the deal. after the caucus there is an expectation of votes around possibly 10:00 p.m. maybe later. as we get word about the senate action. and knowing about it. but it will be a while. 10:00 p.m. we're going to be back here at 8:00 p.m. you were saying about this deal, we rudely cut you off before. that the entitlement reform is not specific on the...
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vice president biden -- i know who that is. that is senator mcconnell's spokesperson up there, don stewart who is regaling reporters with some kind of details about behind the scenes. stu is telling the reporters from the republican point of view. ed, what about from the white house point of view you about how this deal came to be and what it looks like? >> as mike laid out he s exactly right that vice president biden, of course, played a pivotal role. known as the mcconnell whisperer as somebody who when you go back to the debt ceiling debate about a year and a half ago he unsticked that when it was stopped up. he was brought in sort of as the closer again yesterday to try to move this along. it is not a completely done deal yet. as you noted this sequester came about all because the cuts were supposed to be so onerous that lawmakers in both parties would never let them go through and yet they he went right up to the edge here. this is important this s just as mike said a two month buydown. shut out the cuts for two months. co
vice president biden -- i know who that is. that is senator mcconnell's spokesperson up there, don stewart who is regaling reporters with some kind of details about behind the scenes. stu is telling the reporters from the republican point of view. ed, what about from the white house point of view you about how this deal came to be and what it looks like? >> as mike laid out he s exactly right that vice president biden, of course, played a pivotal role. known as the mcconnell whisperer as...
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senate majority leader harry reid said we should talk to vice president biden and mitch mcconnell. earlier republicans suggested changing the way inflation is calculated on changes like social security read offered this reaction late in the day. >> i was really grass fied to hear republicans taking command by social security set off the table. this should never have been on the table to begin with. there is still significant difference between the two sides negotiations continue. still time left to reach an agreement. >> meanwhile west virginia democrat joe mansion introduced the calm act trying to soften the blow as the country goes off the fiscal cliff. it would maphase in tax hikes or the years and prioritize spending cuts. he says he's frustrated and tried to do something. >> it was crossing the wires it's more than frustration it sounds like desperation at this point as they are losing hope. the chained cpi the social security adjustment you were talking about basically changes the way they configure the cost of living and would make those benefits smaller checks. does it soun
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from another complan et on high the latest we heard is mitch mcconnell has had to reach out to joe biden to try to get something done. what does that say about the president? >> the president's strategy is stay above it all blame the republicans if things don't succeed and assume if we go over the cliff the republicans will get the blame. if they get the blame you know what there is a fix. the president will be the guy who comes in on the white horse to fix things in the new year. it's a political strategy. i agree with you. i wish you were negotiating but bottom line this is all politics when it should be the good of the country. >> when doug says stay above the fray, do you think the president has stayed above the frey? >> he took a shot at john boehner on meet the press. presidential leadership trying to get the deal done doesn't take the political shots even when they are easy because you are trying to get the deal done. the big deals don't happen without presidential leadership. this is good politics but it's not good policy. it may be good politics makes bad policy. >> isn't the pr
from another complan et on high the latest we heard is mitch mcconnell has had to reach out to joe biden to try to get something done. what does that say about the president? >> the president's strategy is stay above it all blame the republicans if things don't succeed and assume if we go over the cliff the republicans will get the blame. if they get the blame you know what there is a fix. the president will be the guy who comes in on the white horse to fix things in the new year. it's a...
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that is exactly what vice president biden is hearing right now. the key question is how deep and how broad that is. it will be interesting to see whether they come out of this meeting thinking that they need to rewrite a couple of points in the bill which would put off any deal tonight yet again. if they have to go back to republicans because of what they are hearing in the room that is bad news fora deal and you suspect the longer this goes on the more likely that is what is being discussed. >> bret: i agree with you. this is actually a long meeting at 10:40 when you are supposed to potentially move legislation to the senate floor tonight to take action potentially for the house to act tomorrow. stephen dinal with the washington times. thank you very much. i'm getting a lot of tweets from people who just are tired of fiscal cliff coverage. they just want to see megyn kelly and bill in times square dancing gangnam style or whatever they are doing. >> happy new year. >> take me out of fiscal cliff, washington. >> see yew in a minute, bret. happy ne
that is exactly what vice president biden is hearing right now. the key question is how deep and how broad that is. it will be interesting to see whether they come out of this meeting thinking that they need to rewrite a couple of points in the bill which would put off any deal tonight yet again. if they have to go back to republicans because of what they are hearing in the room that is bad news fora deal and you suspect the longer this goes on the more likely that is what is being discussed....
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, the name we haven't heard is vice-president joe biden. what's the significance of them bringing him in in the 11th hour discussion? >> i think it's important because he was in delaware this weekend and all of a sudden, suddenly, rushed back to the white house early today and that's significant because when they had things all boxed up a year and a half ago on the debt ceiling and looked like they'd hit a brick wall, it was joe biden reaching out to mitch mcconnell and bridged the divide and magically had a deal and some senior aides who say joe biden might be the key to unsticking this, afternoon biden and mcconnell worked on the debt ceiling, many years in the senate, obviously, together and that's why they have that relationship, there's some in the white house who call the vice-president the mcconnell whisperer, as if he has some sort of magic potion that bring people together. >> stuart? >> can i just ask you, ed, if there's any deal you've heard of that's bandied around here, any deal at all from either side which would cut spending
, the name we haven't heard is vice-president joe biden. what's the significance of them bringing him in in the 11th hour discussion? >> i think it's important because he was in delaware this weekend and all of a sudden, suddenly, rushed back to the white house early today and that's significant because when they had things all boxed up a year and a half ago on the debt ceiling and looked like they'd hit a brick wall, it was joe biden reaching out to mitch mcconnell and bridged the divide...
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vice president biden has worked very hard to come to a compromise. by definition a compromise has elements in it that each party does not like, but by definition it has things in it each party should like of the the speaker said that if the senate passed a bill he would put it on the floor for a vote. the leader has pointed out we expect that to happen. we think that's in the best interest of the american people. we hope that our colleagues on the other side of the aisle can reach compromise. our members are reviewing the specifics of the compromise that has been reaped to determine whether they can support that compromise. i am hopeful that this congress will as one of its last act, not only on this compromise, but i am also very hopeful and would expect that we would provide the emergency assistance needed for the victims of sandy, one of the country's worst storms in history that damaged the northeast so badly. so i am hopeful we will be able to move on both of these issues, and that we will have members on both sides who perhaps will not agree, b
vice president biden has worked very hard to come to a compromise. by definition a compromise has elements in it that each party does not like, but by definition it has things in it each party should like of the the speaker said that if the senate passed a bill he would put it on the floor for a vote. the leader has pointed out we expect that to happen. we think that's in the best interest of the american people. we hope that our colleagues on the other side of the aisle can reach compromise....
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in previous budget battles, joe biden has been the closer on these deals. his coming back from delaware might be a sign they are moving a little closer. that will be something to watch. the whole thing about changing cpi and reining in cost of entitlements, republicans are judging in on that. take a listen. >> one of proposals we made was something called change cpi but basically makes an adjustment in terms of how inflation is calculated on social security. highly unpopular among democrats not something supported but to strengthen social security in the long time i'm willing to make those decisions. >> reporter: in the morning, the president seemed to be opening the door to rein in those entitlements and then you heard harry reid shut the door on it. the president was talking in the context of reining in entitlements in a four trillion dollar debt deal not in the last minute deal, he would be willing to do that in much broader debt deal. but when you talk to republicans ron johnson from wisconsin, the real problem the president is not willing to rein in sp
in previous budget battles, joe biden has been the closer on these deals. his coming back from delaware might be a sign they are moving a little closer. that will be something to watch. the whole thing about changing cpi and reining in cost of entitlements, republicans are judging in on that. take a listen. >> one of proposals we made was something called change cpi but basically makes an adjustment in terms of how inflation is calculated on social security. highly unpopular among...
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struggling and suffering and generational theft is going on what did we see obama is ordering pay raises for biden and members of congress and federal workers and nobody is talking about our healthcare taxes going up, billy cunningham. how in good conscience do they do this at this time? >> sean hannity, the people are taking this in the shorts now are going to be the butchers, the bakers, the candlestickmakers and carpenters and elec electricia. we haven't talked about the huge tax increases on average americans. take billions and ship it off to a black hole in washington and call it a victory. boehner will be elected speaker. the republicans won't be primary #-d. the media will declare obama the winner and the only person getting hurt is the middle class that allegedly obama supports which is a bunch of baloney. that s go is going to happen. >> i will throw this to joe trippi. the people that will really be hurt are the children and grand children that we are stealing from. we are robbing these kids blind. we are taking their inheritance away. and i have a question for you, for joe trippi. why i
struggling and suffering and generational theft is going on what did we see obama is ordering pay raises for biden and members of congress and federal workers and nobody is talking about our healthcare taxes going up, billy cunningham. how in good conscience do they do this at this time? >> sean hannity, the people are taking this in the shorts now are going to be the butchers, the bakers, the candlestickmakers and carpenters and elec electricia. we haven't talked about the huge tax...
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he has been speaking to vice president joe biden throughout the day. it seems like there is some progress that appears to be -- rick: he said we are very, very close an says he agrees with the president who spoke during our program. when the president said the top priority is taking care of keeping those tax rates for the middle class down, mitch mcconnell saying that is the top priority and we can get it done. so let's get it done. those are probably the most optimistic words we have heard from senator mcdmonl some time. very, very close. sounds very, very promising. but there is so much to do, so much to get done parliamentary, it's sort of an organizational-wise. it's hard to get it done by midnight tonight. that what we'll be watching for in the hours ahead. arthel: for the americans who are frustrated to hear m connell say let's take care of those middle class families and we'll deal with the rest later. rick: this is a deal primarily between mitch mm connell and joe biden after some stalled efforts. they put off what they call the sequestration a
he has been speaking to vice president joe biden throughout the day. it seems like there is some progress that appears to be -- rick: he said we are very, very close an says he agrees with the president who spoke during our program. when the president said the top priority is taking care of keeping those tax rates for the middle class down, mitch mcconnell saying that is the top priority and we can get it done. so let's get it done. those are probably the most optimistic words we have heard...
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never received a response to a republican offer last night and is reaching out to vice president joe biden to kickstart negotiations with the white house at this point. the senator saying fail to go solved the crisis is simply not an option. >> the consequences of this are too high for american people to be engaged in a political messaging campaign. there's no single issue that remains an impossible sticking point. the sticking point appears to be a willingness and interest or frankly the courage to close the deal. i want everyone to know i'm willing to get this done. but i need a dance partner. >> a dance partner. meanwhile democrats being led by senate majority leader harry reid who says he's cautiously optimistic about reaching a deal but warns there's not much more negotiating that can be done on his end. >> i don't have a counter offer to make. perhaps the day wears on, i will ble to. i will say that i think that the republican leader has shown good faith. it's just we're apart on pretty big issues. >> that was earlier. let's get the latest now because it's changing minute-by-minute.
never received a response to a republican offer last night and is reaching out to vice president joe biden to kickstart negotiations with the white house at this point. the senator saying fail to go solved the crisis is simply not an option. >> the consequences of this are too high for american people to be engaged in a political messaging campaign. there's no single issue that remains an impossible sticking point. the sticking point appears to be a willingness and interest or frankly the...
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vice president biden, mcconnell, said to be about $100,000 apart with biden willing to preserve tax cuts for families making up $450,000 and mack connell wanting to go to 550,000. south dakota senator john thune is too on miss tick but his focus is different than senator bocker's. >> i certainly hope the negotiations occurring right now can conclude in a way that will give us an outcome that prevents those tax rates from increasing on americans across this country and also put in place some things that would actually deal with the real problem, and the real problem, mr. president, is that our country spends too much. >> reporter: democratic senator tom harkin of iowa says republicans are trying to lock if had income and estate tax rates and some permanent spending cuts in exchange for temporary hikes in unemployment insurance and other things. and he objects to that. still aways to go, uma. uma: still aways to go indeed. wendell goler on the front lines right at the white house keeping tab on all the happenings from that vantage point. thanks so much for joining us. jon: let's bring in j
vice president biden, mcconnell, said to be about $100,000 apart with biden willing to preserve tax cuts for families making up $450,000 and mack connell wanting to go to 550,000. south dakota senator john thune is too on miss tick but his focus is different than senator bocker's. >> i certainly hope the negotiations occurring right now can conclude in a way that will give us an outcome that prevents those tax rates from increasing on americans across this country and also put in place...
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now vice president biden is said to be about 100,000 a year apart. biden is willing to preserve tax cuts for families making up to $450,000. mcconnell holding out for $550,000. a year. south carolina senator lindsey graham is not happy about it. >> in 2010 we extend the all the tax cuts because the economy was weak. in 2012, 2013, we're not going to extend the tax cuts the economy is weaker. i don't understand the economics but i do understand the politics. the president won. the president campaigned on raising rates. he will get a rate increase. >> reporter: we focus on the tax rates but that is not the only issue. the bigger issue is what the money is used for. the republicans want to use it to reduce the deficit. the democrats want to ease spending cuts for another year or so. gregg? gregg: wendell goler, thank you very much, live at the white house. we switch to the other end of the avenue and there is house speaker john boehner just arriving and, let's listen. >> [inaudible]. gregg: wow, we got a ephappy new year out of eric cantor. maybe i coul
now vice president biden is said to be about 100,000 a year apart. biden is willing to preserve tax cuts for families making up to $450,000. mcconnell holding out for $550,000. a year. south carolina senator lindsey graham is not happy about it. >> in 2010 we extend the all the tax cuts because the economy was weak. in 2012, 2013, we're not going to extend the tax cuts the economy is weaker. i don't understand the economics but i do understand the politics. the president won. the...
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biden stowed have given up his push to raise the estate tax. democrats are trying to delay spending cuts until 2015 and republicans are demanding more spending cuts to offset extended unemployment benefits and farm subsidies. lot of ground to make up. but mcconnell says his decision to reach out to biden was a good one. >> the vice president and i worked together on solutions before and i believe we can again. i want my colleagues to know that we'll keep everyone updated, the consequences of this are too high for the american people to be engaged in a political mess. i'm interested in getting a result here. >> there is no indication when the talks will resume today and neither biden nor mcconnell is predicting an agreement before midnight. but the conventional wisdom is that there is no great harm in going a few days into the new year, as long as the markets don't tank and it might even be politically easier to reach a deal after that. clayton, dave? >> juliet: thanks, we appreciate it. at issue, try to get information out of these closed door
biden stowed have given up his push to raise the estate tax. democrats are trying to delay spending cuts until 2015 and republicans are demanding more spending cuts to offset extended unemployment benefits and farm subsidies. lot of ground to make up. but mcconnell says his decision to reach out to biden was a good one. >> the vice president and i worked together on solutions before and i believe we can again. i want my colleagues to know that we'll keep everyone updated, the consequences...
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knew how to do it calling in vice president biden. obviously they were able to kind of talk turkey in a way that got things done. i think really elevates his prestige even more. harry reid, again certainly in a position to obstruct something. he didn't. so could he have been more aggressive? perhaps so. i think this is kind of the outcome a lot of members of the senate, house, democrat and republican foresaw. i don't give any bad notes to harry reid on this. heather: okay. basically because he went quiet and stepping into his place and appeared to be vice president joe biden. >> biden is clear winner even eclipsing the president who yesterday almost had what democratic strategists call a leon lett moment. the dallas cowboy who spiked football before he got into the end zone. when the president had obnoxious pep rally before the agreement was reached. joe biden stepped in. he spent many decades in the chamber. he has personal relationship with mitch mcconnell. depends how you view the deal. if you think mcconnell did the right thing he
knew how to do it calling in vice president biden. obviously they were able to kind of talk turkey in a way that got things done. i think really elevates his prestige even more. harry reid, again certainly in a position to obstruct something. he didn't. so could he have been more aggressive? perhaps so. i think this is kind of the outcome a lot of members of the senate, house, democrat and republican foresaw. i don't give any bad notes to harry reid on this. heather: okay. basically because he...
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biden said: me. it's interesting, the senators, the democrats all got together late yesterday, and joe biden went in, and his pitch to the liberals, particularly liberal liberals was -- quote -- "this is joe biden, and i'm your buddy." he was saying this is the best deal you're going to get. you guys got to go for it, and a majority of the democrats did. >> the little smirks and all that, but the fact is he went in there superseding harry reid who wasn't getting anything done. at least something happened. people wanted to see some sort of action. they wanted to know their congressmen who went home for the break would actually do something. >> here's mitch mcconnell on how this thing went together. he doesn't like the way it happened either but it's still done. >> shouldn't have taken us this long to come to an agreement, and this shouldn't be the model for how we do things around here. i know i can speak for my entire conference when i say we don't think taxes should be going up on anyone, but we all
biden said: me. it's interesting, the senators, the democrats all got together late yesterday, and joe biden went in, and his pitch to the liberals, particularly liberal liberals was -- quote -- "this is joe biden, and i'm your buddy." he was saying this is the best deal you're going to get. you guys got to go for it, and a majority of the democrats did. >> the little smirks and all that, but the fact is he went in there superseding harry reid who wasn't getting anything done....
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. >> shannon: a task force led by vice-president joe biden has been established to find ways to curb gun violation. lawmakers are back on capitol hill. but are they any closer to reaching an agreement, aimed at heading off a fiscal meltdown? let's ask them. we have two congressmen here. gentlemen, welcome to you both. >> good to be here. >> shannon: congressman kucinich, the spending side, do you feel there are areas where the government could cut as part of this negotiation in process? >> certainly, i have been arguing for years, we could cut spending at the pentagon. there are a lot of programs that are wasteful. we could stop the expansion of a war into the middle-east. that would save a lot of money. it is not that difficult to cut spending. the problem is that we have a manufactured crisis. they are trying to manufacture consent for a deal that would be otherwise unacceptable. so the members of congress and the american people. i don't think many people are thinking about having to watch what is going on in congress on new year's eve. we govern 365 days a year -- or should and t
. >> shannon: a task force led by vice-president joe biden has been established to find ways to curb gun violation. lawmakers are back on capitol hill. but are they any closer to reaching an agreement, aimed at heading off a fiscal meltdown? let's ask them. we have two congressmen here. gentlemen, welcome to you both. >> good to be here. >> shannon: congressman kucinich, the spending side, do you feel there are areas where the government could cut as part of this negotiation...
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he remains disses missive president obama creating a task force led by vice president joe biden to examine ways to reduce gun violence. wayne laperriere believes the group will try to destroy the second amendment, true or false? >> if you look at the overall goal here of the democrats is to do, david axelrod axiom never fail to take advantage of a crisis. this is not a political winner for the democrats. even at the height of the news coverage for this only saw a seven-point swing in terms of americans wanting more gun control. look back at columbine --. kelly: is this a movement to take away guns from the average constituent, take away their second amendment rights? is it or not? >> that is movement. that was only goal. the only thing democrats try to do it every few yearsings look for tragedy and take advantage to increase gun control laws. if you look back every single time more gun laws passed it has opposite effect. has not decreased gun violence. increased it and americans still believe we're better off arming ourselves by to one margin. kelly: i see your point. richard, nra opposes
he remains disses missive president obama creating a task force led by vice president joe biden to examine ways to reduce gun violence. wayne laperriere believes the group will try to destroy the second amendment, true or false? >> if you look at the overall goal here of the democrats is to do, david axelrod axiom never fail to take advantage of a crisis. this is not a political winner for the democrats. even at the height of the news coverage for this only saw a seven-point swing in...
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here now with a preview of how to stay out of trouble is trace gallagher, biden or west coast newsroom. >> many laws you have not heard about. for example, newark state now, it is illegal for you to sell electronic cigarettes to minors. in illinois, if you are applied for a job, your would-be boss can no longer ask for your social networking password. that has been deemed in violation of your privacy. if you riding motorcycle in illinois, you can run red lights. if you'd like when you get on your bike, it's not heavy enough to trigger the sensors to turn the lights from red to green. so they save you wait there for two minutes and the coast is clear, you are free to go. illinois, illinois now has banned the sale of all shark suit. in california you can no longer use dogs to chase down by pairs and the humane society says it's bad for the bears and bobcats and the dogs. and computer-driven vehicles are now okay. as long as there is a human in the passenger seat in case the computer takes over come you have someone to grab control of the car. by the way, do you think the gridlock in wash
here now with a preview of how to stay out of trouble is trace gallagher, biden or west coast newsroom. >> many laws you have not heard about. for example, newark state now, it is illegal for you to sell electronic cigarettes to minors. in illinois, if you are applied for a job, your would-be boss can no longer ask for your social networking password. that has been deemed in violation of your privacy. if you riding motorcycle in illinois, you can run red lights. if you'd like when you get...
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let's talk about some, joe biden, for example, gets a raise 225 to now $231,000. we move on to a couple of others, if we can spin through to give you an example. john boehner increase of $1,000, so they're not enormous raises, they are fairly mottdest, right, peter? >> they are fairly modest, it affects not only congress, but the supreme court justices and also includes senior executives in the executive branch. the cost of this, according to the congressional budget office, is going to be about 1 billion dollars a year with this increase for senior executives in government. so, literally, think about this. they're talking about the fiscal cliff, they're talking about raising taxes and cutting spending. the only thing that's been accomplished thus far is to raise spending by about a billion dollars a year. >> dave: i think in particular rubs americans the wrong way when they see this, members of congress average salary, 174,000. average american, $48,000. that's on top of the fact that we see all the time, they take off, these long recesses and oh, by the way not
let's talk about some, joe biden, for example, gets a raise 225 to now $231,000. we move on to a couple of others, if we can spin through to give you an example. john boehner increase of $1,000, so they're not enormous raises, they are fairly mottdest, right, peter? >> they are fairly modest, it affects not only congress, but the supreme court justices and also includes senior executives in the executive branch. the cost of this, according to the congressional budget office, is going to...